tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423590579776359125.post7650448573566498395..comments2022-11-05T06:20:43.490-07:00Comments on Occupy Movement - Occupy Oakland: Response to MotherJones Article http://bit.ly/x95KtiBella Eiko - Spreading the wordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14157446869881359620noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423590579776359125.post-6812606989979866382012-02-08T14:53:53.855-08:002012-02-08T14:53:53.855-08:00Thank you so much for your remarks and acknowledge...Thank you so much for your remarks and acknowledgement of my response. I do appreciate it and don't mean to disrespect your opinion at all. Just wanted to clear some stuff up for those who may not have interpreted the article in the way I meant it.Bella Eiko - Spreading the wordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14157446869881359620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423590579776359125.post-32488719380458220792012-02-08T13:03:48.974-08:002012-02-08T13:03:48.974-08:00Jessica,
Thanks for your posting this. I'm so...Jessica,<br /><br />Thanks for your posting this. I'm sorry for describing you as "black" when you don't identify that way. I was going off your profile photo, which was clearly a mistake. I have changed the description to "part black" and included a link there to this post for anyone who might want to know what that means. I respect your argument that race does not matter in this, but personally, I do think that race matters when the discussion at hand involves race, which it did in this case.Josh harkinsonhttp://www.motherjones.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423590579776359125.post-62101982163366729112012-02-04T07:52:06.278-08:002012-02-04T07:52:06.278-08:00Oh right, today's the 4th, sorry. I was think...Oh right, today's the 4th, sorry. I was thinking all day that FTP is Friday.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423590579776359125.post-27842349602552248202012-02-03T22:13:06.535-08:002012-02-03T22:13:06.535-08:00What happened to the FTP march? I am not in Oakla...What happened to the FTP march? I am not in Oakland and I wasn't online when it would have started. Did it happen?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423590579776359125.post-4480332199130560912012-02-02T19:26:21.857-08:002012-02-02T19:26:21.857-08:00Please forgive me. I've obviously annoyed you,...Please forgive me. I've obviously annoyed you, which wasn't my intent. I'm trying to respect your heritage by understanding what you meant by Creole-Japanese settlers, and I still don't know. But as you point out, it's tangential to the larger issue, so I'm fine with dropping it.Alan Kurtzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11649147078397282212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423590579776359125.post-62799166948832629822012-02-02T19:09:26.989-08:002012-02-02T19:09:26.989-08:00I'm not making a big thing out of it. I just w...I'm not making a big thing out of it. I just wanted to clear some things up. I didn't mean to endorse violent actions and I don't think that's what the article is saying. I just wanted to make sure people understood what I meant when I was quoted in the article for those who may not have interpreted it correctly.Bella Eiko - Spreading the wordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14157446869881359620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423590579776359125.post-9689978668542799712012-02-02T19:07:38.404-08:002012-02-02T19:07:38.404-08:00Yes and some Creole have Native American blood as ...Yes and some Creole have Native American blood as well, which I do. However, this conversation going deeper into my heritage still is totally beside the point. The point is my CULTURAL BACKGROUND DOES NOT MATTER. I am able to make assessments on a situation I have observed regardless of the color of my skin. If you wanted to use my cultural background to solidify a point I was making then it is better to ask how I identify, because just because my skin is dark doesn't mean I'm African-American, African, Cuban, or what have you. So to make assumptions about my level of credibility is irrelevant and slightly offensive when basing it on the color of my skin. When I try to address it nicely we have to harp on it which is exactly what I shouldn't be having to do. <br /><br />Not to mention, Indigenous people were already here, so they wouldn't be settlers if they were Indigenous. Thus that should automatically cross Indigenous people off the list of whom I could be referring to when I said settlers.Bella Eiko - Spreading the wordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14157446869881359620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423590579776359125.post-24600547704305782552012-02-02T16:41:48.031-08:002012-02-02T16:41:48.031-08:00Sorry if I was patronizing Jessica. I meant to su...Sorry if I was patronizing Jessica. I meant to support you and did not do it well. You did a better job. I think you are very generous to Josh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423590579776359125.post-20616226859454813762012-02-02T16:31:54.774-08:002012-02-02T16:31:54.774-08:00Sorry, I'm still confused. You wrote, "I ...Sorry, I'm still confused. You wrote, "I can trace my family from both sides to the original settlers," of which you now say you mean "the country." But wouldn't that be Native Americans? I've never heard that Indigenous People had either Creole or Japanese blood.Alan Kurtzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11649147078397282212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423590579776359125.post-60745348015703469732012-02-02T15:28:11.096-08:002012-02-02T15:28:11.096-08:00By settlers I meant settlers into the country.
I ...By settlers I meant settlers into the country.<br /><br />I am not offended by you saying I am African-American or black. My problem is when it issued to solidify my opinion on something. My cultural background has nothing to do with the comments that I had made. It was purely an observation.Bella Eiko - Spreading the wordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14157446869881359620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423590579776359125.post-66183869336786675382012-02-02T15:03:10.440-08:002012-02-02T15:03:10.440-08:00I apologize if I offended you by referring to you ...I apologize if I offended you by referring to you in my Mother Jones comment as "African-American." Still confused, however, by your identification as "Creole and Japanese. I can trace my family from both sides to the original settlers." By original settlers, do you mean those in Oakland?<br /><br />Wikipedia says Oakland's "earliest known inhabitants were the Huchiun tribe, who lived there for thousands of years" until being displaced by Spanish settlers in the 18th and 19th centuries. No mention of either Creole or Japanese in this account.Alan Kurtzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11649147078397282212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423590579776359125.post-19883582800291847272012-02-02T10:22:17.193-08:002012-02-02T10:22:17.193-08:00Well stated Bella. To be honest prior to #J28 I di...Well stated Bella. To be honest prior to #J28 I didn't pay attention nor really care about the Occupy Movement, but after spending several hours watching the livestream from Oakland I found myself questioning my loyalty to a system that allows the brutal suppression of Free Speech. Thanks for helping open the eyes of this once closeminded old dog :)morickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15624650672258296642noreply@blogger.com